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September 27, 2021

Well, well well…..

Filed under: Modeling — dknights @ 11:51 am
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Look at what we have here.  The biggest question this raises is how did Border Models get the molds?  Inquiring minds want to know.

13 Comments »

  1. Well, isn’t that something.

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — September 27, 2021 @ 2:31 pm

  2. I ‘d say the same way Meng got the Dr.I Tripeplane molds.

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — September 27, 2021 @ 2:39 pm

  3. Hmm. Stokes my skepticism of widely-held conventional wisdom about WNW, such as that Peter Jackson’s and/or other WNW principals’ jealously iron grip on WNW tooling and IP is unshakeable, and that Chinese manufacturers never really played more than an incidental, footnoted role in the WNW legend.

    Comment by Steve — October 1, 2021 @ 7:50 am

  4. Steve, for me it leads to the thought that Mr. Jackson may have been incredibly gullible if he though that he had an iron grip on anything that was stored in China. If he wanted total control, he should have had the molds stored in New Zealand.

    Comment by dknights — October 1, 2021 @ 8:56 am

  5. Perhaps the molds were purchased from Jackson/WNW?

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — October 1, 2021 @ 8:53 pm

  6. Possible.

    Comment by dknights — October 1, 2021 @ 9:35 pm

  7. I’m going on the assumption that the Triplane and Lancaster molds were owned by WNW. I’m also assume WNW declared bankruptcy, and that its assets had to be sold. Not sure how that works in NZ. I assumed, dangerous I know, that the molds were either bought by a Chinese firm, or were used to pay off debt owed to the company that made/held/used them.

    In all of its years in business, WNW never once turned a profit, and in fact its parent, the WETA Group, was subsidized by the NZ taxpayer/socialist system to the tune of $41M a year.
    My money is on the molds being sold to pay off debt.

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — October 2, 2021 @ 8:08 am

  8. Warren. That is certainly possible, thought not the story told by those involved. I don’t think there was an official receivership (bankruptcy) for WNW. My best guess is that stuff is moving out the back door without Peter Jackson’s consent. It gives me hope that we’ll see the old WNW stuff out at some point in the future.

    Comment by dknights — October 2, 2021 @ 10:37 pm

  9. Yes, but I also find it interesting that the only kits to surface so far were those that were in the development pipeline and not those already produced.

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — October 2, 2021 @ 10:41 pm

  10. Not sure that there would be a clamor to start re-running kits that had not been profitable in the first place, and for which there appears to be an existing ample global supply (despite speculation). Also, would be interesting to know how the market *actually* responded to WNW during its existence—perhaps some indicators might be the frequency of WNW builds in contests or if others modeling categories showed signs of cannibalization, i.e., a discernible quantity of armor or modern jet modelers switched over to WNW and 1/32 WW1, or that sales of other model market segments sagged as a result of WNW. The conventional wisdom is that WNW was a major market force. Or was it? Was it more of a ‘critical darling’ that got lots of admiration from but not that much pickup? I think I might post on this soon…

    Comment by Steve — October 3, 2021 @ 12:51 am

  11. Well, if you look at what the mainstream kits they produced are selling for on the market now, and I’m talking Albatri, Fokker D.VII’s. Sopwiths (Camel and Pup), etc., and mainline two-seaters, then yeah, there’s a market. The large, oddball stuff never sold well (Gotha G.I, Felixstowe, etc.) I’ve got a Sopwith Pup on evil-bay right now, and I expect I’ll turn a very nice profit on it.

    Comment by dixieflyer500 — October 3, 2021 @ 5:35 pm

  12. But we still live in a Tamiya 1/48 F-4/Rye Fields T-34 world…did WNW change that? A lot? A little?

    Comment by Steve — October 5, 2021 @ 12:25 pm

  13. Steve, great question.

    Comment by dknights — October 5, 2021 @ 3:49 pm


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